Apologies for wanting peace!!!!

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Paladin

In addition notice how many corporations now own the media outlets, once there were more than 50, now, only 5 major corporations own the most popular outlets. Or just watch the video I linked to above.

It's taken the heart and soul out of it.

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by flowperson

There is no free speech here in the traditionally accepted definition. This is why for some time now I've called IT the military-industrial-entertainment complex.

This characterization might make sense if you're referring to mainstream media. But I don't think MSM is interested in a comprehensive view on anything. Has it ever been?

There is a great deal of free speech in the blogosphere which is available to anyone. Independently owned websites and blogs can provide for comprehensiveness that you can't really expect from MSM. In a very real sense, the Internet turns out to be one of the best things that has happened to free speech. Even when an individual blogger is put out of business by some corporate fascist, there will be other websites who picked up on the disappeared website's content who continue to make the information available in a more or less permanent form. This material is important given its potential to raise awareness about issues that get little or no MSM coverage.

We are certainly not dependent on MSM like they are the last word on anything. The Internet provides access to authoritative sources who know a subject matter in much greater depth and detail -- e.g. historical and political perspective -- than what is reflected in an isolated news story. Many bloggers are folks at the universities who have a broad grasp of the facts. They're not just recycling the next Associated Press release.

[Alex P]

It's like I'm sorry for choosing to be born, sheesh I'll go into the corner until the day I silently fade away...

[flowperson]

Snoop and netti...Of course this sadness hasn't happened overnight. It's taken sixty years for IT to almost completely and effectively encompass US citizenry in the darkness. Ike knew what was coming since it had already been thought out and planned beginning in 1949. Except for a few beacons of light such as Chomsky and Amy Goodman, there aren't many icons to circle the wagons around. I should probably also include Bill Moyers.

Netti...the blogosphere is another matter altogether. How could it ever center around supporting a concensus concerning global changes? The enemy's primal tactic has always been to keep those who agree upon viable concepts of change separated in whichever way possible. The very structure of the internet encourages that form of organization. Other than individual parsing of personal philosophies, I can see no scenrio under which the blogosphere could foment real organized change for the better.

flow....

[China Cat Sunflower]

Free speech is a very uncomfortable thing. I'll bet I could formulate a poll question that gets to the nut of the issue, and clearly demonstrate that most people, present company included, want limits on speech and expression.

I'll say this: Friends don't let friends buy into the corporate bullshi t. The media exists to sell things to us. It's OK to relax and be entertained, but it really isn't a small world after all, and anyone who relies on the media for their world view is a lazy dunce.

Chris

[Paladin]

At least there are a few bright spots, and a few pretty funny ones.
Sweet Jesus, I Hate Bill O'Reilly, International

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by flowperson

Other than individual parsing of personal philosophies, I can see no scenrio under which the blogosphere could foment real organized change for the better.

It may not lead directly to political change; but it has the potential to be revolutionary in terms of impact on public discourse, attitude change, and even personal development when used as part of a larger process, i.e.,

a vehicle to transmit thoughts and ideas in preparation for a purely telepathic noosphere. The next several years its role will be vastly influential in terms of the global progression of consciousness, and I urge all to participate as they can until then (or until the government curtails this freedom, much as it has done with suppressing entheogens); but at some point, perhaps soon, the circuits and transistors will go the way of the covered wagon. Many of us will leave our electronic devices abandoned on the beach as we eventually look up and realize the great sea of enlightenment and oneness is before us, and go in for a dip – never to return. The key to ridding ourselves of the shackles of this reality is love, pure and simple. Love is the thing no machine can transmit; love is the unique trait, or ability, that will catapult our transformation from homo sapiens not to homo cyber, but to homo luminus.

Surfing the Tao » Love, Psycho-cryptography and the Noosphere

Btw, as it happens in the West, this whole thing is being watched all over the world. In the Democratic Republic of Georgia and in Turkey they are downloading the same music we're listening to. Just imagine: a whole new generation brought up in this new global noosphere that was made possible by the Internet who will be innoculated against xenophobic, nationalistic attempts to create divisions between people and cultures.

[flowperson]

Hi Netti...If one walked down the street in any large American city and asked 100 people if they recognized the name, Pierre Tielhard deChardin as the 1950's ex-priest and writer who named the process of moving from an electric and electronic person-to-person communication/control matrix to one of a telepathic nature and basis, first their eyes would glaze over and then roll back into their head as they blabbered in a spittle-laced blur of non-sequitors. Then a few would sober up and say, who?...Pierre what's his name ?

Please do not misunderstand.I would have welcomed a noosphere- matrix based communication network some time ago. First it must self-organize and become a real thing. But as Chris so wisely observed, The Corporate Bulls**t approach has not allowed such things to progress and happen as yet, and I see no indication that the Corporate money metering and extraction mechanisms will relent anytime soon and allow truly free communication to rear its ugly pinko commie socialist heads.

flow....

[Ciel]

Originally Posted by flowperson

............... first their eyes would glaze over and then roll back into their head as they blabbered in a spittle-laced blur of non-sequitors.

flow....

Flow, something like this...........?

http://duggmirror.com/pets_animals/C...creenclean.swf

- c -

[Netti-Netti]

[quote=flowperson;140653]

If one walked down the street in any large American city and asked 100 people if they recognized the name, Pierre Tielhard deChardin as the 1950's ex-priest and writer .... a few would sober up and say, who?...Pierre what's his name ?

Name recognition is always good for crossword puzzles. Don't people in the urban US do crossword puzzles? Btw, to my knowledge, he did not leave the priesthood even though he had run-ins with the church on the issue of evolution.

... I see no indication that the Corporate money metering and extraction mechanisms will relent anytime soon and allow truly free communication to rear its ugly pinko commie socialist heads.

That's not the world I see. I might add: the real barrier to free communication is not of the artificial variety you mention. It's fears, attitudes, and preoccupations which are internally generated rather than imposed by external agents.

[Alex P]

LOL no way,y sister was trying to show me that same darn thing on my work computer but it wouldn't load and now I get to see it on my own computer awesome cleaner lol..

[flowperson]

Originally Posted by Ciel

Flow, something like this...........?

http://duggmirror.com/pets_animals/C...creenclean.swf

- c -

Q: Whatever is that doggie doing ?

A: Why I believe it wants to "French" you my dear.

flow....good one -c-....

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Ciel

Flow, something like this...........?

http://duggmirror.com/pets_animals/C...creenclean.swf

- c -

Oh, how cute.