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Old 02-26-2005, 12:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

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Children hold great wisdom if we allow them to share it.
That's really true. What was it Jesus said? We must have child-like faith if we wish to enter heaven (I don't have the exact quote, obviously ). In their innocence, children are closer to God than most adults. The same is true, I believe, of the mentally retarded - they are like the original adam and eves, unknowing of evil, innocent. Have you ever spoken with someone who has Down Syndrome? Child-like. Innocent. (Usually.)

Of course, both children and the mentally handicapped need guidance, which is why I also agree with Basstion. In their innocence, it is often difficult for them to comprehend why certain actions are wrong to do. So, they require guidance, not from equals, but from parent figures.
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

Dear Dor

I am also tired, so can we please shake hands and treat others as you would wish to be treated, at the end of the day I am a Christian, born a Christian, brought up a Christian and my mother was a Sunday school teacher. For my eight birthday I asked for a bible and how many children make that request. I have walked with GOD since I was child so please in GOD's name let us be at peace with each other for what you do to me, you do to the self.

Love your neighbour as yourself as certainly been lacking on this forum the last week. So I will not respond to any further taunts by other Christians.

May peace be with US all.

Dear Knight of the Rose

Thank you for your contribution.

I could say more but I feel enough as been said for now.

God bless

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Old 02-26-2005, 12:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

Dear SS,


Consider the hands shaken. One last comment remember it was never you I was disagreeing it was your teaching about the bible and Christ. I love you still as much as I do everyone.

YBIC
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Old 02-26-2005, 12:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

We do have something in common.. I am a Christian even though I was brought walking with the Lrd I said the sinners prayer when I was 8 or 9 I read the bible when I was a kid I memorized scriptures.. You said "what you do to me you do to self. I believe it should read what you do to me you do to Jesus because he said what you do to the least of your brethren, you do to me.

Matthew 25:40 And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.'

Peace SS.. and sleep good
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Old 02-27-2005, 11:10 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

Dear Faithfulservant

Yes I agree he said that also and so it is we must all be mindful what we say, think and do to others because we also do this to GOD. So those that abuse others also abuse GOD, those that stand in judgement of others also judge GOD. So let us do our utmost to live by the law that Jesus shared with us, the law of love.


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Consider the hands shaken. One last comment remember it was never you I was disagreeing it was your teaching about the bible and Christ. I love you still as much as I do everyone.
YBIC
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They are not my teachings Dor I am just an instrument for GOD's will, but I accept your reasons and beliefs and honour these.

Love beyond measure

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Old 02-27-2005, 11:17 AM   #36 (permalink)
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whilst looking for the poem about children learning what they live I discovered that I had written this in the past for parents of children.

ANTI-LOVE

So what does anti-love really mean?
Self-interest, selfishness, self-harm is what creates anti-love.
When one does not love the self unconditionally and with compassion.

Anti-love creates a wall of separation and alienation from that which one desires the most.

Everyone wants to be loved but the reality is that love attracts love.

How much love do you give to yourself?
How much love do you give to others?
Anti-love is the demon that plagues our planet,
face your demons with love and they will vanish into the black hole you call the 'void'.

There is no void in hearts of souls that are 'being love' with the full power of their existence.

The power of love is within YOU
Allow it to be a force for change so that darkness falls upon YOU, no more.

Let the light of love be the beacon of your awakening.

Kim©2003

Now before anyone jumps to any conclusions here, you will notice there is no mention of GOD in the above writing due to me not being allowed to promote GOD within the government contract.

But as I explained to the parents orally GOD is LOVE and LOVE is GOD.

Love beyond measure

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Old 02-28-2005, 07:57 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: Anti-love - Anti-Christ ?

I have read about how humble how giving and how unselfish and how loving etc etc etc

This work is an oxymoron
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So what does anti-love really mean?
Self-interest, selfishness, self-harm is what creates anti-love.
When one does not love the self unconditionally and with compassion.
sorry if I infringed on any copyrights

Let me break this down Anti-love = Self-interest, selfishness, self-harm
or is it Anti-love = not loving the self unconditionally

you cant have it both ways maybe thats why you come under fire so much at its root everything I see of your posts end up with you pointing to yourself
I have really tried to look at your writings and your posts and to see Christ in them to see something other than Kim, but I cant.
I see and read nothing but what I consider rambling that all leads back not to Christ, not to love, but to look at the great spiritualist Kim and what she has done or what she has been told or what love she has that you fundamentalist Christian do not because you hold on to the old fashioned ways and hold the word of God as it was handed down to you as truth.

You dont seem to care that one person posts a thread about the fundamentals of Christianity and you post one Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalists when you have stated that you think our Bible was corrupted by rome. Over and Over you display this two sided flip flop hipocrisy.

I think your right about moving this thread and I think I would like to see more of your spiritualistic preaching back on threads where they belong too. So that I can easily avoid them not out of hatred but out of respect for your beliefs I would not come on and post attacks that distract anybody from gaining "enlightenment" from them.

IMO you are posting in the wrong forum (Christianity) maybe you should start a new movement Kimism Church of the SacredStar or something. Sorry if that stings but sometimes the truth has that affect.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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*bump* wasnt showing Basstians post
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:17 PM   #39 (permalink)
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That's really true. What was it Jesus said? We must have child-like faith if we wish to enter heaven (I don't have the exact quote, obviously ). In their innocence, children are closer to God than most adults. The same is true, I believe, of the mentally retarded - they are like the original adam and eves, unknowing of evil, innocent. Have you ever spoken with someone who has Down Syndrome? Child-like. Innocent. (Usually.)

Of course, both children and the mentally handicapped need guidance, which is why I also agree with Basstion. In their innocence, it is often difficult for them to comprehend why certain actions are wrong to do. So, they require guidance, not from equals, but from parent figures.
Very nice post Knight
It certainly does help when we can see both sides of the coin.
I think that is why we teach the children and we were also taught not to stick our fingers in the electric outlets and fire on the stove and to look both ways before crossing.
But of course we had to get burned so we could know. Who was there to help the children but the very ones who said "look both ways"
Sounds kind of like the garden to me... "Do not eat from the tree of good and evil because you will surely die" LOL
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:48 PM   #40 (permalink)
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1. Let me break this down Anti-love = Self-interest, selfishness, self-harm
or is it Anti-love = not loving the self unconditionally

2. I have really tried to look at your writings and your posts and to see Christ in them to see something other than Kim, but I cant.

3. You dont seem to care that one person posts a thread about the fundamentals of Christianity and you post one Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalists.

4. would not come on and post attacks that distract anybody from gaining "enlightenment" from them.
1. First one as to truly understand the golden rule that Jesus attempted to teach us all. Love your neighbour as yourself, so here he is confirming the importance of loving the self and the equality of loving our neighbour in the same way - the law of love. Paul also talks about as I have demonstrated.

For if one does not the love the self unconditionally one is unable to truly love another unconditionally and this as been borne out and witnessed with government health and education workers, due to them not loving themselves they do not love the community. They continue to wear their superiority hats and professional masks instead of just giving the community the love they so desperately need. For everyone wishes to be loved. The salvation army called these people lost souls, but yet they were not lost, they were looking for the way to change and improve their lives, and GOD brought them the opportunity to be truly blessed with GOD's love and to learn what real love means. And now the parents are flying divine sharing their love and light of GOD with the community and the professionals are left behind.

So for us to truly understand anti-love we must understand what love is?
Selfishness is about human desire for self, e.g. looking for happiness outside of the self through exterior validation e.g. relationships that are based on need and desire, increasing one's financial position and assets to only benefit the self. Accumulating instead of sharing, community instead of self.

Loving is giving.........giving love to the self and to others. Self harm is created by negative thought led emotion hence why the Essenes taught that energy follows thought it is the science of being and the nature of the universe that Jesus, Plato, Socrates etc etc all tried to teach us. GOD as sent many messengers down the ages.

2. Now my father and I are one.

He asked me a few weeks ago, 'Shall I bring forth the time when we shall be one and I replied whenever you wish."

3. Yes I care very much and so does GOD, I care because he will return and he wishes for you to know him when he comes.

4. That is very kind but anyone who attacks another must look within at what truly troubles them, for GOD as taught me to be detached from physical reality and to live in a higher state of being of supreme love.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

GOD bless

Love beyond measure

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Old 02-28-2005, 05:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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That's really true. What was it Jesus said? We must have child-like faith if we wish to enter heaven (I don't have the exact quote, obviously ). In their innocence, children are closer to God than most adults. The same is true, I believe, of the mentally retarded - they are like the original adam and eves, unknowing of evil, innocent. Have you ever spoken with someone who has Down Syndrome? Child-like. Innocent. (Usually.) Of course, both children and the mentally handicapped need guidance, which is why I also agree with Basstion. In their innocence, it is often difficult for them to comprehend why certain actions are wrong to do. So, they require guidance, not from equals, but from parent figures.
Yes down syndrome children are pure love.

Parents can treat children as equal and still guide like you would your best friend.When we honour children in the same way Jesus does then humanity will make progress.

We only have one true parent and that is GOD, all others are nothing more then guardians. It is human attachment that makes people think of children as a possession, erode their boundaries and contravene their human rights.

For instance Aspergers and autistic children's souls take pre-eminence from birth over their earthly selves but yet humanity as not caught up with this consciousness yet, but there are many of us around the world campaigning for the human rights of all children.

I gave a safe house to an Aspergers man the other week, who as been hounded by mental health and the police and his only crime is that his soul speaks and knows what is ahead of humankind if we refuse to change.

Mental health is in the dark ages.

The face of humanity will change and the sooner it does the less painful it will be for our children.

being love

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