another life

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by greymare

some times, when I completely dont expect it.... i come across someone or a situation, and i believe or rather I know that I knew them in another life. Or , the situation has only half unfolded, (bear with me) and in my head pops, oh well, bad timing.... youlll just have to wait for your next life. and the strange thing is... I feel comforted by that. the strange thing is... I dont believe it... I just seem to know it....????? Does anyone else feel like this... is this normal. ?????

not many are going to take your questions seriously but one phrase is also universal to describe a similar occurrence known by every soul, born conscious, has experienced;

dejavu.

It's real.

It's entanglement (shared energy between mass) and like Einstein suggested; a 'spooky action at a distance.'

Just like twins often feel the feelings of their sibling. Or even prophecies.

The description and observance is where each have limits based on environment; what they know (knowledge), what they believe and what is honestly observed versus percieved or wished for.

[greymare]

actually, bishadi, Ive had dejavu, before. LOL. no, seriously the situation i was trying to describe was different to dejavu. perhaps i didnt explain myself thoroughly. but it WAS different , not wrong , just a comforting feeling. as if . oh well, i might miss out this time but i know ill get another chance later.

[bgruagach]

I'm not convinced that deja vu needs to be explained through quantum physics (which is a stretch really.) Neuroscientists have gone a long way towards pinpointing exactly what part of the brain in involved with deja vu experiences, as well as explaining why it happens.

It's possible that some deja vu is past-life memory coming out, but it's also possible that some deja vu experience is a brain (mal)function.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by bgruagach

I'm not convinced that deja vu needs to be explained through quantum physics (which is a stretch really.) Neuroscientists have gone a long way towards pinpointing exactly what part of the brain in involved with deja vu experiences, as well as explaining why it happens.

It's possible that some deja vu is past-life memory coming out, but it's also possible that some deja vu experience is a brain (mal)function.

Always enjoy opinions but then did you qualify the material to the extent of knowing exactly how the representation works?

Had you covered the chemistry and physiological affects?

Quantum physics has an anchor by the 2nd law (entropy) in which Planck established 'h'.... maintaining a single direction of time. So I agree, QM will be left short.

And since memories are fixed structures within glial, then individual memories could not continue as a personal experience to a persons 'spirit/soul.'

Dejavu is a physical occurrence and each do experience it, just like chemical attraction to another or Love between people; it is a physiological and physical reality.

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

And since memories are fixed structures within glial, then individual memories could not continue as a personal experience to a persons 'spirit/soul.'

I'm not sure this is the only way memories are stored, so to speak.

I think it's probably closer to all of us having desktop computers hooked up to a variety of servers. Some of us are unaware we are on a network, so the memories stored there aren't accessible. Others stumble upon their network connection to a greater or lesser degree, and open up some files.

It isn't so much that "my" memories of past lives are residing in my brain, but rather that I stumbled onto ways to hook into the cloud of memories out there that, in other lives, I generated (along with others). Likewise, the memories I store in this lifetime may well be replicated on some broader group consciousness that I, in a later lifetime, may tap into.

Suffice it to say that for some of us, it is very different from deja vu. Most of my past-life memories have little to nothing to do with anything in this life and are quite distinctive. And I've run across complete strangers who have some of the same details about places, events, etc. but from their own perspective. That was trippy, but after a few years it became background noise of this life. Sometimes I have moments of deja vu, but I always felt these were more just brain glitches than anything else. They certainly aren't the detailed stuff that I found I shared with individuals I'd never met.

I keep an open mind that perhaps what I have aren't memories. If not, they are some other type of group consciousness with a complex storyline and a lot of detail. I don't know what their function would serve. Come to think of it, even if they are memories, I don't know what their function is.

[greymare]

thank you path, I like your interpretation of it........ It makes sense to me.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

I'm not sure this is the only way memories are stored, so to speak.

I think it's probably closer to all of us having desktop computers hooked up to a variety of servers. Some of us are unaware we are on a network, so the memories stored there aren't accessible. Others stumble upon their network connection to a greater or lesser degree, and open up some files.

It isn't so much that "my" memories of past lives are residing in my brain, but rather that I stumbled onto ways to hook into the cloud of memories out there that, in other lives, I generated (along with others). Likewise, the memories I store in this lifetime may well be replicated on some broader group consciousness that I, in a later lifetime, may tap into.

Suffice it to say that for some of us, it is very different from deja vu. Most of my past-life memories have little to nothing to do with anything in this life and are quite distinctive. And I've run across complete strangers who have some of the same details about places, events, etc. but from their own perspective. That was trippy, but after a few years it became background noise of this life. Sometimes I have moments of deja vu, but I always felt these were more just brain glitches than anything else. They certainly aren't the detailed stuff that I found I shared with individuals I'd never met.

I keep an open mind that perhaps what I have aren't memories. If not, they are some other type of group consciousness with a complex storyline and a lot of detail. I don't know what their function would serve. Come to think of it, even if they are memories, I don't know what their function is.

Tao ..... the path of One or the way..... thank you.

Feelings of events do exist in the (internet) of the consciousness. It is how entangled energy can affect another 'at a distance,' both in location and time. This is the collective association of all things; the entanglement of energy.

For example; for each to go to a concert, at that point, then each have been entangled to the shared energy of the show.

On the esoteric side; 'and the doomsday mare, from the sea, breathed fire that rained upon the earth.......' (not a literal quote).... could have been an actual sight observed by another that based on the enormous amount of energy or collection of people who are there, could have actually been observed but the event has not happened yet and the story was written even before you and I were born.

Maybe they saw a submarine, firing nuclear weapons, which do not hit the ground but detonate 500-1000 feet above the surface.

The point is, that (internet) of the consciousness, is a physical occurrence but most do not understand what was seen and if them folk or a few thousand years ago were to see amegedon, how would they be able to describe it in the words of their period.

These are what many have a tough time comprehending, the reality of how it works and then, to understand what was experienced.

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

It isn't so much that "my" memories of past lives are residing in my brain, but rather that I stumbled onto ways to hook into the cloud of memories out there that, in other lives, I generated (along with others). Likewise, the memories I store in this lifetime may well be replicated on some broader group consciousness that I, in a later lifetime, may tap into.

I keep an open mind that perhaps what I have aren't memories. If not, they are some other type of group consciousness with a complex storyline and a lot of detail. I don't know what their function would serve. Come to think of it, even if they are memories, I don't know what their function is.

I can't help but wonder if this is what Jung was pointing to with the "collective consciousness" stuff. I've even heard it referred to, in an epi-genetic sense, as "cellular memory."

Originally Posted by path_of_one

Suffice it to say that for some of us, it is very different from deja vu.

I don't recall any memories of other lifetimes, but I have frequent occasions of deja vu, as in "I've been here before, in a dream." Always it is preceeded by prescient dreams, and always it manifests at pivotal moments in my life.

Interesting stuff...my two cents.

[greymare]

i knew you were going to say that.
LOL

[juantoo3]

Deja vu and mind reading aren't quite the same...

[greymare]

dammit, you read my mind. LOL.
(Im sooooo funny, tonight, )

[juantoo3]

I knew you would be...

I had this premonition....

[greymare]

"insert the music from the twilight zone" here. LOL

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

These are what many have a tough time comprehending, the reality of how it works and then, to understand what was experienced.

I agree that there is some sort of collective consciousness. What gets interesting is how/why certain groups of people experience bits and pieces as if it is [one of] their lives, while others experience other bits and pieces, and some experience nothing whatsoever.

I don't think anyone really understands how all this works- how time itself really works- and so can piece together what is going on. The possibilities are so numerous: is it a past life? a future life? a time loop? all happening at once in various multiverses and the me here is communicating with the me over there? And on and on. Interesting but fruitless to debate.

I can say definitively, in my own life-
I have had dreams and visions that feel like memories, and are shared in detail with strangers.

I have met strangers that I felt I knew and/or felt destined to meet.

I know people who have precognition and/or retrocognition, including about events that had nothing to do with their lives. Some people use this to help solve crimes, etc.

Then there's your usual deja vu feeling.

And all of that feels different from emotional energetic entanglement, as you put it. I'm really sensitive to energy- in people/crowds, places, objects. There is a difference between this energetic impact and what seems like memories. Emotion is attached to both, but memories of past lives are like memories in this life, especially like early childhood memories- with some fuzziness around the events and details until you carefully reflect/meditate on it- and with some parts more clear than others. That's pretty different from the energetic impact I sense when I'm a concert or religious event or anything like that. It's also different from the energetic signature (for lack of better term) that I sense in places that have had major historical impacts (battlegrounds, arenas, old churches, etc.). Places retain a sort of memory of their own, but I see this more as an energy signature- these don't involve me. It's a feeling/sense I get by being in the energy of the place. The people I know with retrocognition go one step further and basically see a video in their mind of what had happened.

In what feels like past life memories, I am an actor in the memory. I know who I am, what I did, where I lived, and who I knew. I remember my role in things, not just the event unfolding around me. Still could be just some amazing storyline I share with some other people for no real reason. Also, given that time is not linear (we only experience it as such), could be a future life or a sideways/simultaneous life or whatever. My point being, it is just plain different categorically from energetic exchange. I've sensed both for years, and the two are quite distinctive to me (and many others I have talked to that have past life memories).

Just my 2 cents. Of course, anything I say will be tainted by my own experience, as will be anyone else's views. This is why such things aren't really debatable, but make for interesting conversation.

[Bishadi]

I agree that there is some sort of collective consciousness. What gets interesting is how/why certain groups of people experience bits and pieces as if it is [one of] their lives, while others experience other bits and pieces, and some experience nothing whatsoever.

Liken this to a killer, some have a conscious and aware of the pain and ill regard imposed, others are hardened and choose not to observe. Likewise some people are open to opinions and ideas that increase capacity to comprehend. Blinders can be imposed by what is accepted rather than true.

I don't think anyone really understands how all this works- how time itself really works- and so can piece together what is going on.

But to trust any concept of God, then as time passes, eventually ‘it’ will be understood. “knowledge evolves” Try and idea…… mass, energy, time …. No measurement/description can exist without the other.

The possibilities are so numerous: is it a past life? a future life? a time loop? all happening at once in various multiverses and the me here is communicating with the me over there? And on and on. Interesting but fruitless to debate.

As you read an old book, you are observing the works or previous lives; may or may not be of your lineage but in each case, of period(s) where your lineage existed. So you are in fact entangled to all of it.

I can say definitively, in my own life-
I have had dreams and visions that feel like memories, and are shared in detail with strangers.

I have met strangers that I felt I knew and/or felt destined to meet.

I know people who have precognition and/or retrocognition, including about events that had nothing to do with their lives. Some people use this to help solve crimes, etc.

Then there's your usual deja vu feeling.

Friend, each person is capable but it is your honesty to having observed and willing to discuss, that is good. And faith has no method of describing these occurrences but in reality there is a form…. Then to observe this reality shares how prophecies even exist.

And all of that feels different from emotional energetic entanglement, as you put it. I'm really sensitive to energy- in people/crowds, places, objects. There is a difference between this energetic impact and what seems like memories. Emotion is attached to both, but memories of past lives are like memories in this life, especially like early childhood memories- with some fuzziness around the events and details until you carefully reflect/meditate on it- and with some parts more clear than others. That's pretty different from the energetic impact I sense when I'm a concert or religious event or anything like that. It's also different from the energetic signature (for lack of better term) that I sense in places that have had major historical impacts (battlegrounds, arenas, old churches, etc.). Places retain a sort of memory of their own, but I see this more as an energy signature- these don't involve me. It's a feeling/sense I get by being in the energy of the place. The people I know with retrocognition go one step further and basically see a video in their mind of what had happened.

In what feels like past life memories, I am an actor in the memory. I know who I am, what I did, where I lived, and who I knew. I remember my role in things, not just the event unfolding around me. Still could be just some amazing storyline I share with some other people for no real reason. Also, given that time is not linear (we only experience it as such), could be a future life or a sideways/simultaneous life or whatever. My point being, it is just plain different categorically from energetic exchange. I've sensed both for years, and the two are quite distinctive to me (and many others I have talked to that have past life memories).

Just my 2 cents. Of course, anything I say will be tainted by my own experience, as will be anyone else's views. This is why such things aren't really debatable, but make for interesting conversation.

Again, honesty and integrity is paramount for any 2 to associate within good.

Them signatures of energy do exist and do affect the consciousness of each but again it is of humbly observing and keeping into perspective whether the sight is true or of desires. For example; when someone observes a moment of dejavu, there is no choice of the matter…… but any can observe an event and wish up an idea of the outcome… still as you humbly pointed out we simply experience the event and assess what it is we observe as if too simply ‘experience the change in time.’