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Old 11-28-2007, 06:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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just finished reading this link i found it usefull
Alzheimer’s Disease—Easing the Pain
Thanks Mee. I will have a look.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Something to think about. If the Holy Spirit dwells in the heart of man, as scripture suggests, then how do you know that God is not experiencing Alzheimer's disease through the people He indwells? If you mother was spiritual, perhaps God's Spirit knows what she is going through.

I don't think the mind is the only place the human spirit dwells. I believe the spirit is larger that that. Perhaps, as someone else has said somewhere on these boards, maybe the mind is a hinderance to the fulc capability of the spirit, and upon death, the mind and body releases the spirit to wherever unfettered by the chains of the fleshly brain. I have no idea what kind of subconcious mind you grandmother has, but my feeling is that as soon as she is gone, she will become aware again, but that right now her spirit is intact, depite her limitations to understand.
I have thought about all that as well. the mind/spirit will be different when the body & fleshy brain dies & the spirit is released. What that will be like, well, who knows. But what you say about God experiencing it through the people...we are on the same page there, but not in another way.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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There is an analogy oft used that puts our soul/spirit as the driver of a car. Driving through life's experiences, around the curves, up and down the hills, breaking down, getting damaged, occasionally being in or causing wrecks, getting rebuilt. Implication was we are not our bodies, we are the drivers.

I don't think I ever fully appreciated the analogy until I had grandparents with disease and dementia... I was able to separate the soul I knew that sat me on her lap, and told me stories from the person that is in front of me. It helped me deal with the loss, and enjoy the memories.

Re the discussion of G!d not being able to experience x, y, or z. I think there is a lesson there as well. We often do the same thing. We have an experience, awful, embarrassing, whatever while we are in it. But then we look back and see the learning, or however embarrassing it was 10 years down the line it becomes one of our favorite stories to tell. All the embarrassment is washed away, or all the troubles relating to the accident or lost job are washed away and we see the personal growth that we achieved due to the occurrence. I think G!d only sees the good and potential in all we do....not the embarrassment not the issues we see...and our lesson is to laugh in the moment, grasp the lesson and not the pain.
Then God would not know the pain people suffer if that is all true & if God only sees the good & not the problems which would make him kind of ignorant...after all, I have not heard much about people being healed from Alzheimer's disease...so maybe He does not know what it is like.

well then that puts god back into limitations & yes God has limitaitons other wise he would be able to tell lies & break promises. Can God die?...

if God does not know people have it then he does not know to heal them...& that does not make sense either. So we are back to what does God really know it is like & what does he not know. Does God learn? My hunch is he always knew my Grandma would end up with AZ, but God does not have a clue what it is like to have it him/itself.

Sure, God makes humans with bones that break & minds that fail... & if it is true God made everything then he knows that our bones are capable of breaking because he made it that way on purpose & would know every intricate detail.

but God does not know what it is like to have smashed faces, broken arms & legs blown off in war nor what it is like to have 30 years of constant pain being in a prsion camp as a beaten slave 24/7 wishing it would all end.

Who knows? Nobody knows.

At any rate it was a positive post we are almost on the same page, Wil, & thanks.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Who knows? Nobody knows.
True that.

Namaste Brother, it is a challenge, part of our journey is seeing how we react, how we cope, how we grow from the challenges. I'm betting on you.
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Hey Bandit!

Sorry to hear about your grandmother, I missed this thread earlier.
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Old 05-23-2008, 04:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When Sickness Is No More! READ ME


The promises of God in the bible will be fullfilled ISAIAH 33;24



Even if we die in sickness now ,the bible holds out the promise of a resurrection into a paradise earth at a future time ,where there will be no more sickness
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