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02-17-2004, 05:15 PM
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Defender of the faith
Suanni, you say that ...UK where the head of the country is the defender of the faith...
Would you like to recall, Suanni -- and correct me if I am wrong, historians here -- that:
The title was first conferred in 1521 by Pope Leo X on Henry VIII for the latter's treatise: Assertio, septem sacraInentorum, against Luther.
Pope Paul III deprived him of this designation later when Henry broke from Rome on his marriage troubles. Just the same the title was confirmed by parliament in 1544.
Which faith was Henry defender of and the present crown defender of?
Susma Rio Sep
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02-17-2004, 05:22 PM
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Kindest Regards, suanni, and welcome to CR!
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02-17-2004, 06:53 PM
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Confused
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No, I speak for today....the monarch of our land is supposed to be the defender of the faith of the church of england....I know many religions now exist in the UK. It was a quick example that came to mind.
No doubt you are correct!!!
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02-17-2004, 10:44 PM
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Confused
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Originally Posted by suanni
No, I speak for today....the monarch of our land is supposed to be the defender of the faith of the church of england....I know many religions now exist in the UK. It was a quick example that came to mind.
No doubt you are correct!!!
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To continue....my head is all over the place today and I understand what you were driving at.
It depends upon the faith in question. The Pope is head of the Roman Catholic church....etc.
I meant the Church of England. Our present day monarch is recognised as defender of the faith.
But I do agree, politics and religion go hand in hand.
Thankyou for the welcome
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02-17-2004, 11:07 PM
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Soul Rebel
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Originally Posted by BrotherDouglas
Brian.., Where's that project, now? Is it online? It sounds like something I would really be interested in...
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Apologies - didn;t see that reply. I'm afraid I'm not online with it again - not for the moment. Maybe soon. Just too darned busy otherwise for the moment.
Btw - welcome to CR, suanni. 
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02-18-2004, 01:06 PM
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Free online reading?
Brother Douglas writes:
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FYI.., I have a book that I'm very proud of, my first .., I just got my draft, today... It's called WHOLINESS and it's all about my journey, thus far. You can read it online.., by downloading it, or pick up a copy here ... www.lulu.com/taobrothers
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You can read it online.., by downloading it...
Well, Brother, how do I access your free online text of 'Wholiness'. I am really most interested to read about your spiritual sojourn, and learn from your spirituality.
What I came across are invitations to buy your book.
Susma Rio Sep
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02-19-2004, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Susma Rio Sep
Brother Douglas writes:
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You can read it online.., by downloading it...
Well, Brother, how do I access your free online text of 'Wholiness'. I am really most interested to read about your spiritual sojourn, and learn from your spirituality.
What I came across are invitations to buy your book.
Susma Rio Sep
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JUST GO to www.Wholiness.com ...it's the open text of the book. I don't have a method for you to download it other than the aforementioned one.
Thanks for the interest.
BD
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02-19-2004, 03:01 PM
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Executive Member
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Kudos!
Thanks, Brother Douglas. I salute you for your goodness in sharing your religious thoughts with others.
You say in your Introduction:
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What did Jesus actually say about same-sex spiritual love relationships, or homosexuality, for the lack of a better word? And, more importantly, could I be Christian and homosexual? Was there a place of service in the Kingdom for me, being such a man?
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Even if Jesus is silent on the above paragraph, I for my own part accept you perfectly as a brother in the big brotherhood or sisterhood of mankind.
One unsolicited observation: Legal same sex marriage will be more and more available to gay and lesbian couples; the institution seems to be obsolescent among squares; you will be its conservator.
Susma Rio Sep
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02-19-2004, 06:33 PM
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General Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Eastern United States
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Greetings
I am enjoying the TaoBrothers website!
I tried to attach my picture. Let's see if it works out. I'm 33, live near Philadelphia, and am a practicing Buddhist (Theravadin).
Nice to meet everyone.
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02-19-2004, 11:35 PM
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Soul Rebel
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Hi Zenda71, and welcome to CR.
Anyone problems, feel free to  me and I'll get your avatar up. 
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02-20-2004, 01:07 AM
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I am everybody, except...
Your humble servant, Susma Rio Sep, is an ecumenical character in religion.
I accept all religions except their if any violent tendencies or teachings and obvservances, which are counterproductive to physical health and mental sanity, and also a good productive enjoyable life for oneself and one's neighbors.
As I accept all religions with the above reservations, I don't think that I have to defend any, and I don't carry the label of any.
I was brought up in Catholic educational institutions, but consider myself now a postgraduate Catholic, meaning that I am no longer what you might call a card carrying Catholic.
But I do explain if the occasion calls for it what I know to be the teachings and observances of the Catholic Church.
Of course, as in every religion, there is in the Catholic Church also all kinds of contortionistic thinking and writing to defend herself. I don't do that and I usually see through that in proponents of other religions.
Susma Rio Sep
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02-20-2004, 01:38 AM
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Kindest Regards, Zenda71, and welcome to CR!
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04-04-2004, 12:13 AM
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The Mystical Shadow
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Still a mystery...
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Greetings, i'm one new mystery*
Greetings people!
You shall call me The Mysterious, or 'Mystery' in short.
I am a new to these forums. I am a person who seek a little help.
I seek help to better and stronger faith, trust and belief methods and strengthening it, now i perhamps should ask; Can you help me?
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04-04-2004, 10:37 AM
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Soul Rebel
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Hi the mysterious, and welcome to CR.
As to your question - I'm afraid we probably cannot. The experience of personal faith remains a personal experience. 
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04-04-2004, 03:33 PM
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General Member
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impartial observer
Hi, I'm Louis...
Not much to say about me except that I've never believed
or dis-believed in any form of religion.
Nor am I seeking anything to "believe in". I have no interest in promoting or denigrating any existing belief
system - the last thing I want is to offend anybody !
I bring nothing but intellectual curiosity because I
happen to enjoy exploring and examining ideas.
I just love to think.
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