A 'real' Christmas story.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by _Z_

The idea of god becoming a man just for us on this planet is impossible, not just that but I don’t believe he can overwrite the program!

All I wish for is Christians to admit Jesus is not god and that the trinity is false. Hmm that’s quite a lot isn’t it!




Z

Ok Z. you have a Christian right here, (ME) who does not believe God turned into a man. & everyone here knows i do not believe that way. you should also know there are tens of millions of Christians who do not believe in the trinity.

is that what you want to hear? does that make you happy now?

Considering 2/3 of the population does not believe Jesus is the Messiah, i dont see what your problem is, other than to defame him & make Jesus less than who he is.

you should also know, that when it comes down to the wire, i have to side with the ones who believe God turned into a man, because after reading what you say about Jesus, it is a real turn off & i would not trust much about what you have to say about Jesus.
this is typical of what happens when you make Jesus less than what the bible says Jesus is & I dont think you know who Jesus is & i dont think you really seem to care & would like to incorporate your own personal story (whatever that is).

somehow, i think your issues about Jesus & the scriptures go much deeper than what you are trying to say here on the surface.

i am just glad i was not around to read all this over the holidays.

[Bandit]

Quahom, Luna, InLove & the others...i just want to say, THANKYOU for saving the real Christmas Story!

[_Z_]

Ok, I feel I am just digging a deeper hole for myself with every word I say, so I am going to stop! My purpose was not to be Christ’s adversary! I am very confused and just don’t know what to make of it all, wrong time of year to be like this I know – but I am a lot harsher on myself and my own philosophies. I hope you have all seen enough of the other side of me to forgive my trespass! I am aware that the world needs more love and peace and that taking the negative line doesn’t achieve anything – I just have these mad moments. Just remember what we druids have been through over the last 2000 years – not that I feel Christ would have wished this - and that much of the trouble in the world is due to people using Christ as a basis for their authority and to further their own power! [damned Romans fault]



Ah dear what can I say, if I have let myself and you all down and you want me to leave then I will but I love you all regardless!



Inlove – perhaps we can find a more diplomatic way to explore the truth!





Hi inchristalways,

what is your short view of what happens after death so I can get an idea where you are coming from.

well in short I feel the soul has a kind of magnetism that pulls it towards its rightful place, like if someone is a Buddhist, then they will be reborn or go to nirvana, if Christian then to heaven. But I don’t believe in the devil or that beings born in ignorance [and innocence] should be punished, it is my nature to want to help even the most deeply fallen souls – the farther they have fallen then the more help they need! Thus I believe there is an underworld or as Buddhist say – intemediate realms, where the fallen may rise, but I would not want even satan himself to be cast aside in the pits of hell – it is more that he chooses not to rise! But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t try to help.



It does concern me that there is a seemingly vast dualistic schism in the idea of heaven and hell, as all evils arise from duality! Perhaps both I and many others are seeing this in the wrong context and that the duality inherent in Christian teachings is only apparent – I don’t know to be honest!




Respect [believe it or not]



Z