A Person brings knowledge; that's it!

[Bishadi]

a New Person....

nothing in Daniel about Jesus.... that book is talking about a completely different guy

Meaning the old testament was not talking about Jesus but Christ as the term defines; they are not the same person but of the same ‘life’ or intent to contribute.

And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the MountZion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. revelation 14;1

The knowledge is upon their forheads and with the truth, each can judge equally.

Meaning with the words to comprehend ‘existence’ and the experience of life, in a true form of understanding; then it must be equal to all mankind and existence for it to be true. Such that existence and how the world turns operates in ONE fashion and it is the job of mankind to combine this knowledge so that tomorrows children can Understand life.

The reduced amount (only 144k) I believe must be the few who see before the war. as during it will be real ugly and why, 'stays in' Zion as no one would ever want to see what is coming.

Which is to observe what was written in prophecies and combine what is literally occurring on the earth as we see it, then it makes sense that this progression is real. i.e…. not many will believe a teacher that shares an esoteric understanding that will address all material knowledge to a comprehensible frame; hence the reduced number in relation to mankind.

Then if the war of wars is coming; (all based on selfish enterprise of the global business of things; that evil to mankind)…. And not a single bit of magic can or does exist; then the understanding of a teacher being isolated in the mountains (away from nuclear fall out) makes sense.

From Mee ……… To each conquering anointed one, Christ will grant the privilege of ‘sitting down with him on his throne, even as he conquered and sat down with his Father on His throne

Perhaps any who are willing to give of their life for the good of tomorrow is worthy of sitting on the so called thrown, next to or purely equal to any other teacher of good knowledge. All men are capable; the choice is the issue.

Which basically means that ‘equality’ can exist between all mankind.

So when this is stated

No throwns. No man deserves a thrown, nor does an 'undescribable' god sit on a thrown

As who is greater than another? None!

The only thing great is what each does. What each contributes for ‘life to continue,’ by choice.

but them who see and know the truth shall have access to council.

Like seeing the teacher after school.

In which throughout history the words offered as gifts to the religions; most of the per se 'contributors' Mohammed, JC etc.... were never alive during the writings of the books that claim their prophet; but this time around, the words will make print before the physical death

Which means that the chapter after revelations has never been put to print such that if the prophecies are all with true basis then knowledge and understanding will be ‘upon the head’ of each; a new chapter will unfold; the apocalypse means the unveiling or revealing.

My point was that this time around, that person will be alive during this progression for the truth to become.

Ever note how knowledge is so much easier to observe in today’s world over any other period in time? So that combining of knowledge is not only easier but simply of choice and of no other input or interference of others; only for the good of mankind; a choice; the covenant to the children!

[mee]

A person brings knowledge and here it is JOHN 17;3



This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3



"How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience, and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge? 23 Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.

proverbs 1;22;23





mee is taking in knowledge of the true God JEHOVAH and his son JESUS CHRIST


AND I LIKE TO BUBBLE FORTH WITH IT

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

"How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience, and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge? 23 Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU.

proverbs 1;22;23

Hence why UNDERSTANDING and the pure knowledge for each to comprehend life is in front of you; the truth!

Meaning: can you define life?

How does an egg from the women and sperm from a man have life upon it to begin a child?

No magic! How does life exist upon mass?

That is what knowledge brings.

'(how long) will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge?'

[LeoSalinas22]

bishadi

i've been reading your posts lately. the more i read the more is revealed about how you think. you keep saying that mathematics is the universal language. do you feel that one must know mathematics to understand God?

you also ask how does one define life? i still have trouble comprehending life, let alone how it works. do you know how to define it?

i don't hate knowledge whatsoever. i do hate math though because to me, it is mans attempts, by using math, to reveal all of God's mysteries. i guess what i am trying to say is that man abuses math and the outcomes have been disastrous as you might know through history. to me, it is simply asking God for permission to reveal a certain answer to a question you have and He does. nothing miraculous or supernatural, just a simple answer. maybe He talks to you by using math? He talks to me using other methods. but never in mathematics.

just trying to understand what it is you are trying to say. maybe everyone else understands but i don't. i've never been good at math. i understood its patterns, but i never thought it to be important enough to guide me or teach me to do what is right and keep me from doing what is wrong. thanks for reading and hope to hear from you soon.

[Bishadi]

i've been reading your posts lately. the more i read the more is revealed about how you think. you keep saying that mathematics is the universal language. do you feel that one must know mathematics to understand God?

No! The math is what perfects universally how existence turns.

Meaning; the math simply shares exactly how it works. (unpublished) But the interrelation of perspectives; good and bad, worship, beliefs, compassion and love are all over the place in literature. Yet to understand how all things are interrelated can be perfected in the sciences, then most all ideas of magic and phenomena can be defined.

To ground understanding in reality is what the truth establishes.

you also ask how does one define life? i still have trouble comprehending life, let alone how it works. do you know how to define it?

Energy upon mass is light. Light is the life upon mass. This setting will change the sciences (paradigm shift) as it contradicts the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Meaning life does in fact mathematically, abuse entropy.

i don't hate knowledge whatsoever. i do hate math though because to me, it is mans attempts, by using math, to reveal all of God's mysteries.

And to reveal what is true is basically what every teacher, preacher, scientist or even prophet intend(ed) to do. Each contributed; now in 2008 we have a bunch we can observe simply by using the internet. Thank the total (God) for all that has been provided.

i guess what i am trying to say is that man abuses math and the outcomes have been disastrous as you might know through history.

Same old same old…. Same since the beginning of time; each try and control knowledge.

That is why a nut WILL not be stopped. They can’t control it this time around.

to me, it is simply asking God for permission to reveal a certain answer to a question you have and He does. nothing miraculous or supernatural, just a simple answer. maybe He talks to you by using math? He talks to me using other methods. but never in mathematics.

‘Nothing’ is ‘talking’ to me just a choice and commitment to understand. The math was done in 1982’ as it was stumbled upon by a kid trying to figure out energy itself within the equations of most all the greats.

And it was then, existence was understood and over these last 26 years an amount of material knowledge has been compiled that represents a change that is a wee bit bigger then previously imagined.

The only choice this I made was to make sure no one could control the knowledge and that the children of tomorrow will have answers with zero bias but to absolute truth.

just trying to understand what it is you are trying to say. maybe everyone else understands but i don't. i've never been good at math. i understood its patterns, but i never thought it to be important enough to guide me or teach me to do what is right and keep me from doing what is wrong.

That last part has the meat and potatoes:

Since light is the energy upon mass, then the life of any motion is by the energy. Simple enough?

Think of a pond, flat and true. Tap the surface and the wave moves through in time. Tap the surface twice and see the 2 waves interact. “Good” associations offer the wave to continue longer and with greater energy than the individual waves by themselves; a progression.

So as you are like a wave in existence what impositions you impose to existence are either ‘good’ (supports life to continue) or ‘bad’ (isolated; loss to the common). Run them 2 rules within the last 6 commandments. They're pure and naturally represented.

In such that to offer your seed with another (sperm/egg) then by choice a new shade is created by your contribution; a child. That by reality, is a life that will continue beyond your period of choice.

Teach a child; that knowledge is assisting a life in progressively understanding. (see JC, Darwin, Confucius etc… they are each 'still live' in their gifts)

Plant a tree: most will live well beyond your period of choice. (could be defined as 'you created a universe of life'..... at least to all them critters, you were 'the man')

As each are of such common sense; then each, also can physically comprehend the truth as it is.

That is the beauty of the revealing!

thanks for reading and hope to hear from you soon

Call it my little thank you for being alive!

[mee]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Hence why UNDERSTANDING and the pure knowledge for each to comprehend life is in front of you; the truth!

UNDERSTANDING can mean that a person gets the real significance and sense of the message, then is able to evaluate it, benefit by it, and know what action it calls for.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

UNDERSTANDING can mean that a person gets the real significance and sense of the message,

Now I am certain the choice of life and how to experience what each choice is, in life, to life, for life.... was understood.

then is able to evaluate it,

That is what all people do and if it makes sense, they can develop without ever needed to adhere to a fib for answers

benefit by it,

Comprehension that each action of choice represents their life now and everafter

and know what action it calls for.

integrity, honesty, compassion and the ability to do what is right even if not popular in the midst of faith.

WHo cares to be accepted? Do what is right!

Do Good... and live, forever!

Do Bad ... and be extinct, eventually!

Not much to debate mr Mee me!

[mee]

Jehovah, "the Ancient of Days" (Da 7:13), has understanding infinitely superior to that of all mankind, whose days cover only a few thousand years and who do not even understand just how the planet they live on came to be formed. (Job 38:4-13, 21)

So God’s written Word is a principal means for gaining understanding.—Ps 119:130.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

Jehovah, "the Ancient of Days" (Da 7:13), has understanding infinitely superior to that of all mankind, whose days cover only a few thousand years and who do not even understand just how the planet they live on came to be formed. (Job 38:4-13, 21)

A new thread for this one but i would like to point out that AD is not mentioned as Jehovah anywhere in the bible.

So God’s written Word is a principal means for gaining understanding.—Ps 119:130.

And since mankind (all) is of God (withing existence) then God's words are of all humanity; to know the truth: combine the knowledge!

[mee]

[quote=Bishadi;150407]A new thread for this one but i would like to point out that AD is not mentioned as Jehovah anywhere in the bible.[/font]

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Before the mountains themselves were born,
Or you proceeded to bring forth as with labor pains the earth and the productive land,
Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.

psalm 90;2

Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding.

isaiah 40;28;29

Are you not from long ago, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. O Jehovah, for a judgment you have set it; and, O Rock, for a reproving you have founded it. HAB1;12

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee;150412[FONT=Arial

Before the mountains themselves were born,[/font]

Or you proceeded to bring forth as with labor pains the earth and the productive land,
Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.

psalm 90;2

So since the beginning of existence (God) evolution created all that is within the rules of existence; mass, energy, time...... the trinity; God himself....

Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary.

Just the same as we can all experience.

There is no searching out of his understanding.

isaiah 40;28;29

And if the Garden of Eden was gods world to adam, then to identify the self and not return to nature is the ignorance of the pursuers of faith; man's religions suggest God as outside of this universe/nature.

When in understanding the natural; we can be within God's understanding!

[mee]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

So since the beginning of existence (God) evolution created all that is within the rules of existence; mass, energy,

The

Source of All Dynamic Energy and Vigorous Power is JEHOVAH

"Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? . . . Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one of them is missing."—Isa. 40:26.

"Alas, O Sovereign Lord Jehovah! Here you yourself have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched arm. The whole matter is not too wonderful for you yourself, JEREMIAH 32;17