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[Tao_Equus]

Sir, I send a rhyme excelling
In sacred truth and rigid spelling
Numerical sprites elucidate
For me the lexicon's full weight


Yes ... you guessed it... its Pi day!!

A nice simple reminder that infinity is real and a reminder than man is destined to go round in circles forever!!

It has been calculated to 1.25 trillion places yet still evades capture. Its found as a constant in so many areas of science, maths, statistics and more that have nothing to do with circles and so some people think it holds some divine key. But to me it counterpoints that no matter what we learn and know there is always more.

Dont mess with the circles!!

[dauer]

I like pi.

Weebl and Bob - pie

[lunamoth]

Happy Pi Day Tao!

[wil]

I saw a guy I believe from your side of the pond recite pi to 20,000 characters. Took him 6 hours I believe.

He said he sees numbers as shapes and then just watches the shapes go by in front of him...

I couldn't find a blueberry pie, so we had cherry instead.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

Happy Pi Day Tao!

Happy Pi day to you too!!

(And its been great seeing you post again past couple of days )

[dauer]

∏!!!!!

[Tao_Equus]

∏ ∏ ∏ ∏ the you see the more you try

[Paladin]

In calculating the area of a circle it is most handy but my helper keeps telling me that pi r not square, pi r round!

[China Cat Sunflower]

Mmmmm...Pi.

Chris

[wil]

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[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

A nice simple reminder that infinity is real and a reminder than man is destined to go round in circles forever!!

I see two false assumptions there:

1. PI does not necessarily mean anything is infinite. A number like 1/3 or .333333333333... does not mean infinity is real anymore than PI does. If you take anything physical and divide it into a perfect third you will not need an infinite number of digits unless there were an infinite number of particles. Nothing on Earth has the capacity to list an infinite number of digits.

A need for an infinite number of digits in PI would be for a perferct circle of essentially an infinite number of particles. I don't see any a-round.

2. Man is not necessarily destined to go round in circles forever and all evidence here indicates not. Basic thermodynamics: the use of energy is a one way trip just as time is a one way trip. Energy itself is not being recycled.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

I see two false assumptions there:

Now theres a suprise!!

1. PI does not necessarily mean anything is infinite. A number like 1/3 or .333333333333... does not mean infinity is real anymore than PI does. If you take anything physical and divide it into a perfect third you will not need an infinite number of digits unless there were an infinite number of particles. Nothing on Earth has the capacity to list an infinite number of digits.

How do you know there are not an infinite amount of particles? Earth is the multiverse?

A need for an infinite number of digits in PI would be for a perferct circle of essentially an infinite number of particles. I don't see any a-round.

You have already stated a belief in the unprovable, I'm sure if you stretch your imagination just a little further....

2. Man is not necessarily destined to go round in circles forever and all evidence here indicates not. Basic thermodynamics: the use of energy is a one way trip just as time is a one way trip. Energy itself is not being recycled.

Have you considered this entropy is a recycling process into hidden dimensions? Do you really believe we know all the laws of physics?

Tao

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

How do you know there are not an infinite amount of particles? Earth is the multiverse?

Good to see you asking questions, Tao. I like questions. Nothing is infinite. Seriously, there is an infinite amount of nothing. You keep insisting that something is infinite despite the fact that nothing is already infinite. Perhaps you think of nothing as being something.

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

You have already stated a belief in the unprovable, I'm sure if you stretch your imagination just a little further....

Negative... I stated that I proved that God exists and certainly you can too.

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Have you considered this entropy is a recycling process into hidden dimensions? Do you really believe we know all the laws of physics?

Good to see you holding out, believing in something you have not seen. The entropy is like pages of a book that have been written on... but forever recorded.

Personally I have never seen energy recycling here, also known as perpetual motion, but if so then it would be a dramatic change in the physics of everything. Energy would be free and polution and global warming would be a concern of the past.

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Paladin

In calculating the area of a circle it is most handy but my helper keeps telling me that pi r not square, pi r round!

That's right, cornbread are square where I come from, pie are round.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Good to see you asking questions, Tao. I like questions. Nothing is infinite. Seriously, there is an infinite amount of nothing. You keep insisting that something is infinite despite the fact that nothing is already infinite. Perhaps you think of nothing as being something.

That we cannot measure the infinite that does not imply that it is not a fact. On the contrary things like the value of Pi demonstrate that the idea of the infinite can be inferred from what we can measure. I will leave believing that nothing is something to you

Negative... I stated that I proved that God

Not to me you didn't.

Good to see you holding out, believing in something you have not seen. The entropy is like pages of a book that have been written on... but forever recorded.

Who says I believe? A hypothesis does not a fact make. How do the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy explain the particles that make hawking radiation? Hawking radiation seems to be the opposite of entropy, something appearing from nothing. To quote Professor Sir Martin Rees, Britain's Astronomer Royal, "we have achieved remarkable things in the 200,000 years since we evolved for life on the African plains but it is probable we are just not adapted to see all there is to see." As we probe ever further into the mysteries of the universe we will force some adaptations, but even then new sets of questions will doubtlessly face us.

Personally I have never seen energy recycling here, also known as perpetual motion, but if so then it would be a dramatic change in the physics of everything. Energy would be free and polution and global warming would be a concern of the past.

Have you seen seen the universe stop? Did you see it begin? You believe in God, where did that entity begin? We are only on the first tentative footsteps to finding a relationship between the atomic and quantum yet time after time you hold up one set of ideas as though they explain everything. They do not. But perhaps in time a breakthrough will indeed come that allows us to use what we do know for systems as chaotic as climate. In the meantime...have a slice of Pi.

Tao