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Old 04-26-2007, 04:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Theosophical Hierarchy

Some folks go nuts with charts. I remember doing that, and in the end, I have to admit - I could never have come to my present understanding without them!

Of course, there's a lot of conceptuality involved, and attempting to visualize a lot of this is somewhat difficult ... but then, I wonder, what does the average Christian picture when s/he reads Genesis?

So - while I am happy to say that Blake's `Ancient of Days' has always held a certain appeal to me (just as his poetry, and other art), I recognize that this is anthropomorphism, pure & simple.

Is the conceptual approach really superior? It probably drives artistic types crazy!

Still, in five diagrams from A Treastise on Cosmic Fire (two of them excerpted from The Theosophist at the turn of the century), we get from Cosmogenesis squarely into Anthropogenesis.

The first chart is much like what you've already shared, Nick. It shows the Macrocosm, and the relationships between highest Parabrahm and lowest man. Since the microcosm reflects the macrocosm, the next two charts show the Creation of the Solar System by our Solar Logos.

Note in the first chart that a Human Monad fits neatly inside a given one of the Seven Major Planetary Logoi of our Solar System (toward the bottom, Monadic Plane). This means, in effect, that actually human beings belong to one of SEVEN `Fathers Who art in Heaven,' although I take `Father' to refer to the (Human) Monad, rather than the `Parent' Planetary Spirit. Still, we are all strangers here, just passing through.

As for the relationship, people may look at a chart, see a tiny triangle within a greater one, and say that this is absurd! It is, after all, just a chart! Yet to me, the triune relationship is already apparent. I may need clarification, some elaboration on how the Prototypical Three get mirrored for me, and how the personality comes into Communion with the Soul, then returns "to the Father's House" ...

... yet I am confident that I will not find `God' - in the mirror!

The fourth chart shows Our Solar Logos, with the Seven and Three (Ten) Schemes of Spiritual Evolution taking place (during 100 `Years of Brahma,' or 3.11 trillion years) in our Solar System.

The final chart is Earth's Scheme only of Spiritual evolution. All Seven Chains of Seven globes each are depicted, yet we know that these do not co-exist temporally - only, "in the Mind of God."

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And yeah, Francis, you can find plenty of references to `Dvipas' and `Manvantaras' in Hindusim. Care to show us where ol' HPB and AAB got it wrong? Perhaps some illumination and insight into how these charts are off ... or did they get it about right? Wanna remind us - where again - did they take this information, out of those other, more ancient sources?

I am waiting for the Commentary. I would really appreciate some detailed notes. Just demonstrate, if you don't mind, how all we've got here is
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Originally Posted by Francis king
"dusprayukta dharma", badly arranged or badly composed teachings...
You know, it shouldn't be difficult. You seem to have a knack for these things!
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